According to the experts at the SAS, the 5.62 bullet used in the M-16 and AR-15, doesn’t kill. It wounds. Bigger bullets are deadlier bullets. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294631/SAS-use-bigger-bullets-kill-enemy-outright-claiming-shoot-wound-policy-lives-risk.html

Earlier you asked, “Do you reject all forms of compromise, or only on this subject?”

I answered. Apparently you do not understand. No one is offering a compromise. I am being called a sinner and told I need to repent. Why? I’ve killed no one. I’m not a threat to anyone except those that might wish to harm my family. Because I own objects that someone else thinks I shouldn’t have. Those objects are judged by this person as being inherently evil.

Yet paradoxically, this person thinks agents of the government should run around protecting me with these same instruments of evil. Why is it evil for me, to have weapons, yet not evil for the government to have weapons?

Historically, the greatest evil mankind dispenses has always been done at the hand of government. “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Our first president supposedly said that. Our 2nd Amendment recognizes that reality. We are the militia. If the best tool available for troops is the M-16, then those of us who wish and are able, should be able to buy, train with, keep and carry an M-16. (Not allowed to buy. We should be restricted from buying.) We don’t need police to protect us. This is not a police state (yet). We need to protect ourselves.

I will not compromise my God given duty to provide protection for my family. “He who provides not for his own, especially for those of his own household, is worse than an infidel.”

So you haven’t seen a wound made be a .308 or .30/06 and compared them? Easily twice the damage. Like I said, the .223 isn’t legal for hunting deer in many states because it doesn’t do enough damage. It’s a good all-around varmint (coyote, bobcat, fox, badger, rabbit, etc. cartridge).

Trigger happy police with shot up a Torrance neighborhood the other day because they panicked when a newspaper delivery woman tossed a newspaper onto a drive way.

The goto gun for those cops was the AR-15 with standard capacity 30 round magazines. If the police need AR-15s with 30 round magazines to shoot at us when we are not a danger and are merely going about our business, how much more so do we private individuals need AR-15s with 30 round magazines when multiple assailants invade our homes?

And who are you to tell free men what they need to protect themselves from the evil people in this world? And do you share the sentiment of the author of the OP, that those of us who take the issue of protecting our family personally and seriously, are somehow less Christian and need forgiveness from that sin?

You made my point: Both the premium hunting ammo and the military ammo tumbles. Or as we were taught in Special Weapons, the .223 round is designed to bounce around inside the body once it makes contact with bone (instead of shattering it), therefore causing maximum soft-tissue damage. More importantly, I have read many reports of actual human body wounds caused by this ammunition, and was disturbed by them. You may be more into sport-shooting than I am, and even more current, as it has been a while since I served, but my assessment of the deadliness stands, and is supported by several different sources I checked for corroboration. Nor is the AR-15 the most efficient home-defense weapon, since deadly force mostly only comes into play inside of a dwelling, where the long barrel becomes a hindrance for several reasons. The one thing it DOES have going for it is that, compared to pistols, very few shootings are committed by rifles each year.

Rich, isn’t this a false dichotomy? People who prefer guns can also prefer children too.

This is the same kind of comment that Ken Ham and others use against you. Because you believe in an old earth, you prefer science over scripture. You know that’s not true, yet you claim those who prefer guns, choose guns over children.

Also, you say we don’t need to hunt we should go to the store. What arrogance and ignorance. Who are you to tell me or anybody else that I have no business participating in a sport that I have been involved in all my life and am passionate about just because you don’t understand it and/or think it is wrong. Do you have any idea what would happen to our wild life if there was no hunting, which is a huge part of our conservation efforts. I know you have a right to your opinion and views but you are dead wrong on these particular issues.